Welcome back to Big Brother Secrecy 6. On this season of Secrecy
14 men and women of the ORG world entered the most secrecy filled game around.
After two ejections and nine evictions we are now at the final three stage of
the game. Cealey, Nate and Velva have survived by playing off each other and
creating a tight alliance that couldn't be broken towards the end game. In the
start of the game Nate was brought in to replace a player who dropped out the
first night. Although Nate came in late he won many challenges and created many
friendships that allowed him to get through the game. Cealey was a controversial
player throughout the entire game and had several fights in the house along with
a public alias suspicions. With her tight alliance with Nate and also Devon,
Cealey was able to make it to the final three. Velva played a very behind the
scenes game, becoming everyone's friend and aligning with those she felt would
benefit her. She also observed everyone at all times and kept close tabs on not
only her enemies but her friends as well. With all three having a very different
strategy and view from the jury who will win? Tonight we will go from three to
two and see how the jury reacts to those in finals. Who will win Big Brother
Secrecy 6? Find out right now on the Big Brother Secrecy 6 finale!!!
Before the final Head of Household was to be held each of the final three
took some time to reflect on the game...
NATE
I
came in a day later than everyone else and felt at a huge disadvantage. I've
also never played with any of these people before and haven't played an ORG in
over four years...I'm shocked I've made it this far, but quite proud! I'm
surprised that Stacey's floated her way this far, but it makes sense in terms of
the way this game has gone - targeting threats.
VELVA
Cealey is who I will be taking to the F2. We have had an alliance since the
beginning of the game and have worked well together throughout this game.
I think I have a chance of winning because I played an honest game and didn't
make any promises I couldn't keep. But I could also be viewed as a floater which
could hurt my chances whereas Cealey/Nate took risks in the game and may get
respect votes even if they didn't always keep their promises.
CEALEY
final three! holy crap. it just really hits you when you get that point of no
return. i dont know! i think i deserve to be here. i worked hard and put up with
alot of bull. i tried to be everyone's friend and i got called things such as a
bitch to being a man.. i've been called everything and anything all because i
knew how to separate friendship from game play. right now i think i can take on
anyone and anything. i proved to be a good player, no one can take that away
from me. win or lose.
As the final HoH approached Nate
tried to see if Cealey would throw it to him...
Cealey:
I thought about that; but I knew in the end of the day I could trust you.
Nate: So I was thinking last night as i was falling asleep and this is clearly
only a suggestion but since we're both f2 anyway as long as we beat Velva, I'd
be wiling to win and be the one to actually vote her out though if you'd rather
do so, that's fine
Cealey: I think we should see what the challenge is; like personally I don't
want to vote out Velva. Clearly. But I want to try if I am able to actually win
it.
Nate: Right
Cealey: If I don't think I can win it I can just help you win it.
Nate: Ok that works. I think if you vote out Velva, she'll hold much more of a
grudge against you, you know? Like if Velva voted out Eric.
Cealey: Yeah.
Nate: Anyway, just wanted to check in, let you know the random thoughts I had
last night, we're both shoe-ins for All Stars 2!
Cealey: I know!! But so is Devon>
Nate: Hahaha! We can mend our ways with him after the game. Hopefully. Let's see
how he bitches us out in the jury.
Cealey: He's going to act so better then us in jury, yet he's the only one who
is sitting there.
Nate: Exactly, and that's what we can say. Would I take back what I did to him?
Would I take back what I did to him? No. If I hadn't used the Diamond Veto to
put him up, it'd be him/Stacey/Sarah final three.
Cealey: Honesty if he didn't scheme so much, the final three would of been us
three.
Nate: That's really true. Oh what could have been. Maybe in All Stars 2? We can
try that final three.
CEALEY
nate asked me to
pretty much let him win the challenge tonight... i cant do that. i would never
not take the opportunity to put the power in my own hands. especially at final
three. i want to go to the end with him...but im not stupid, i have another
option... another option that might be a little smarter then going with the
genius of the game. i want to win, to have the option. i dont think i would vote
nate out... but im not dumb...
Nate wanted to
evict Cealey last round and with both her and Velva still in the game he knew he
was the odd man out...
Velva:
Good luck on this challenge tonight.
Nate: Thanks you too! And after we figure out who wins, we should talk.
Velva: Definitly.
Nate: We've come so far to be booted at final three.
Velva: I know, I can't believe we are finally this close.
Nate: I know! And I know we've never made an official F2 but I think our
teamwork in alliance and comps, throughout the game speaks volumes.
Velva: We have always worked well together.
Nate: I guess I'm saying, I'm not sure what kind of agreement you have with
Cealey, if at all, but if you win the last HoH, I hope you're open to looking at
either option. Because I am.
Velva: I'll keep an open mind about everything.
The final three were waiting all
day for the final HoH to begin. It's a Secrecy tradition and they were in for
some fun remembering...
For this HOH there
are 18 quotes, each quote is from an evicted player (Tye, Matty and Molly do NOT
have a quote). Each evicted player has atleast one quote said by them and no
more then three. Each of you have 6 quotes about you. The **** stand for one of
your names.
What you must do is post in your Diary Room the answers to these quotes. You
must say which of you the quote is about and you must also say who said the
quote.
You can get 2 points for each question, so there is a possible 36 points. You
can get one of the two wrong, and still get a point. If you get neither right,
you get 0 points, if you get both right you get 2 points for the question. The
winner is the person who gets the most points. If there is a tie then whoever
posted their questions first will win the last HoH.
Before the houseguests were locked
into separate rooms to do the challenge both Velva and Cealey took one last
chance to wish each other luck...
Cealey:
I think you'll win this.
Velva: I don't know about that. It's going to be hard to figure everything out.
Cealey: Nate says he probably won't do good. I think its between you and me.
Velva: I wish it would be.
Cealey: If Nate win HoH he's basically won the game.
Velva: I really think either you or Nate will win, both of you have been tough
competitors and very social. I think you have a better chance.
Cealey: They are all mad at me. Nate has won 8 challenges and had the secret
Blue Veto. He was only nominated once.
Velva: But I've seen people vote for those they are mad at, but you were also
good at challenge.
Cealey: I think I have a shot, just I thin he's got it in the bag if he wins
this last HoH.
Velva: I don't think I have any chance of winning it, although I will try.
Cealey: You deserve whatever place you get, even a winning position. Everyone
plays the way they play, as long as you try and don't give up. No one can say
you don't deserve to win.
Velva: Thanks I appreciate that, I think this is the time we all get paranoid.
Cealey: I agree, let's just do our best and hope for the best!
VELVA
I like this
challenge. It sort of puts everyone on equal footing and shows if you had been
paying attention to things in the game. Do I want to win? That's a hard one. I
did my best on it but if I win then I will be placed in the position to take
either Cealey or Nate to final 2. This has come back to bite me in the past. You
could very well be judged on why you took this person and there could be hard
feelings because of it. The better thing would be for either Cealey or Nate to
take me to final 2 but that is a big risk in itself. They could very well take
each other.
With each of
the final three in a different room it was time for the final HoH to begin.
Below are each of the questions along with the answers...
1) I
feel like I trust Devon and **** the most right now. I don't know if it's fully,
but it's pretty close. I'd like to see either one of them with me in the finals.
It doesn't really matter who. I do think right now that I'd have a better chance
of beating **** than Devon, but I don't like to play by taking weak people with
me.
Sarah said this about Nate
2) My team made me pisssed! I hate working with **** because they think Im an
idiot and wouldnt even let me do any part of the challenge anyway. Im glad we
got an All Star though, cause they did end up winning it for us.
Stacey said this about Cealey
3) Talking with everyone has been great so far. **** is definitely one of my
favorites right now. They are such a fun person to talk to, and we definitely
share a lot of similar interests. They're probably the most likable person I've
met so far, so of course you've got to look at them and think what a major
threat they could be down the line.
Jenna said this about Cealey
4) I just solidified a pact of sorts with **** that we won't vote for each
other. Of course, because of Operation X, this actually means I will be voting
for them if they're nominated, but hey, it's a secret! That's what this game is
all about.
Devon said this about Velva
5) **** is always on and is always talking to people and they can adventuly be a
treate in the game. So it might be good to take them out now earlier in the game
and the weeker players later on in the game.
Charlie said this about Nate
6) I have made two official alliances in the game. One with Molly which is going
to be torn apart by the end of this vote and one with **** to keep my butt in
this game. I'm working on making more deals with Devon, Nate, Stacey and Jenna.
I don't feel like I've made any enemies. I haven't been able to catch people
online to talk with them but that's no reason for them to hate me.
Eric said this about Velva
7) **** is very talkative and has a great personality. I really do enjoy their
company. However, this is a social game and social competition will have to be
taken out. Kicking **** out soon would probably further me in the game as I see
them turning into a huge threat in the future.
Travis said this about Nate
8) I really hate being nominated especially against someone that I geniunely
like in the game and wished to work with a lot longer then its being allowed.
**** is a good person and deserves to stay as much as I do. I hate that Im up
against them. But the HoH really sucks, so what can I do? I hope that I stick
around, I really want too.
Sammi said this about Nate
9) **** won HOH! I'm really, REALLY glad to hear this because it means I'm safe.
But at the same time, I'm a little bit concerned because it also means while I
can influence the nominations, they have the final say. And I might not like
their final say. The thing is, **** has been quite ridiculously crazy in this
game so far, and I'm starting to not trust them.
Devon said this about Cealey
10) I feel that if they want to make this whole BS as "hiding behind the
shadows" then the player would be ****, not me. This is ridiculous. I really
think I will stay though, and I should stay.
Sarah said this about Velva
11) I really want to put up **** Beacuse even though we are like kinda allined
and looking out for each other I can tell they have MUCH bigger plans then that.
and i know somthing is going on. but maybe they will maybe try to loure me in to
her secret whatever and i might be able to create some kind of plan later to
stay longer in the game but that is way in the futur.
Charlie said this about Cealey
12) If I won the power I would have just done Devon's dirty work and take myself
out and nom **** in my place. Why? It would have been interesting and about
time.
Stacey said this about Nate
13) Eric going doesn't effect me at all. I guess it might because didn't someone
once think that I had an alliance with Eric and ****? I guess that's screwed up
now.
Stacey said this about Velva
14) I love **** but I want to be at the end of this game. I am going to start
fighting just as dirty as the rest of them and if it gets me to the end then
I'll be happy and take the consquences then.
Eric said this about Velva
15) I'm trying though and that should count for someone. Even with a
relationship and a job (to where Im working like 40 hrs a wk) I still make time
to talk to everyone and try to be geniunely concerned about who Im talking too
and what we're talking about. I cant help it if some people bore me cough ****
cough.
Sammi said this about Velva
16) I don't know who **** is. I don't know if they're nice or mean anymore, but
at this point no one believes a word that comes out of their mouth and they have
just gotten to the point of extreme annoyance.
Sarah said this about Cealey
17) I am freaking out because if I get put up and am up against someone like
****, chances are I'm going to be out. I don't like that. I've worked to hard to
stay to be out now. We're so close to jury. I didn't handle my losing very well
Eric said this about Cealey
18) **** is by far the person I trust the most at this point in the game, but
even so I don't trust them that much. I haven't told them many of my secrets and
I don't plan to. Howeve **** and I definitely seem to have the same agenda and
the same ideas, so hopefully we'll stick together for the duration of the game.
Devon said this about Nate
Each of the final three took their
time to answer each quote and each felt unsure if they would win or not. When
all three were finished it was time to reveal who would be crowned the final
Head of Household...
In last place
with 20 points is........
VELVA
This means
either Cealey or Nate has won the last HoH. One has 23 points while the other
has 26 points, meaning only 3 points will decide the winner.
With 26 points
the final HoH winner is....
NATE
Nate was shocked to have won but
knew he had to evict either Cealey or Velva. Both were given a chance to plead
their case after congratulating Nate...
Nothing I can do or say can change what Nate
thinks; he knows my every secret in this game, I've never had to really lie to
him. He knows the strategical side I chose to play in this game.
I've proved my
loyalty with him the round Devon left and the one before. He knows where I stand
with him, he doesn't need me to tell him why he should take me.
I trust he will do
the right thing, he's proven to do it throughout the game.
VELVA
I just want to say I
have really enjoyed playing with you Nate as well as Cealey
We have been together
almost since the start of the game and have worked really well together and have
had some fun times throughout the game
Of course I would
love to be in the final 2 with you but I also respect whatever decision you make
and no hard feelings either way
Cealey is also a
great player as both of you are, good luck on your decision
After some
thought it was time for Nate to make the last eviction of the season...
NATE
You've both been great allies and
supportive of me along the way so thank you both for that
But I have to evict someone, the
person I choose to evict has probably seen this coming
So I'm sad to say this Velva....
but would you come with me to the
final two?
I vote to evict CEALEY as
it's the best move for my game.
I'm sorry Cealey, but you're too
strong a competitor to face in the F2 and you'd easily win. I hope you
understand.
Cealey starred in shock for
a few seconds but got back to reality and took her eviction with a smile...
Cealey: Smart boy!
Nate: I love you, but you're by far this season's best player.
Velva: I feel so bad Cealey!
Cealey: Don't feel bad, I feel so relieved. I adore you both so much.
Velva: I wish all three of us could be in the finals.
Cealey: How can I be mad? Toss me to the dogs!
Velva: You played a great game
Nate: <3
Cealey: Later boy and girl. <3
As Cealey
walked into the jury house the plasma screen in the living room turned on
showing all seven of the jury members, now including Cealey. Nate and Velva were
now about to face the jury and were immediately asked to give their opening
statements...
NATE
hey y'all
first, it's an honor to be in the final 2 and i look forward to your
questions/comments. thank you all for a fun and crazy game.
i feel i deserve to win bbs6 and hope to convince you of that below. however,
y'all have the ultimate power of deciding tbhe winner and i hope to earn your
respect in the jury q&a. as part of that, i want to finally cast all secrets
aside and talk directly and openly about the two most important parts of my
strategy: my social game and competitions.
social game:
i started the game on day 2 (after jeremy left the game) and felt like an
underdog from the beginning. i'd missed the first blue veto competition (and my
only chance to meet matty or jenna, it turns out) and had to hit the ground
running. my social strategy was simple: to build genuine friendships with people
to make it through the early-mid game and then make use of key alliances and
trust to make it to the end.
very early on in the game, an alliance between me, cealy, and devon was formed
and that worked to our equal and mutual advantage for the majority of the game.
only when i had reason to distrust devon and the opportunity arose to vote him
out (in round 7 after i won the diamond veto) did his part in the alliance end,
but my alliance with cealy lasted through the final 3. the alliance was
beneficial for both of us (and for devon until his departure) and it was a true
alliance in that we all contributed socially and in challenges. no one dominated
nor rode coattails in our alliance of three.
for a round or so in the middle of the game, i was also part of a fourway
alliance with devon, sarah, and stacey. that overlapped with my hoh in round 6,
when i nominated the only two people left in the game with whom i wasn't in an
alliance (eric and velva....sorry eric, nothing personal!) and who were rumored
to be a pair. breaking up eric/velva was key because one of them getting hoh
could swing things against either of the alliances i was in at that point.
aside from those core alliances, i maintained friendships with most everyone in
the game (though i wish i had gotten to know people like tye and charlie
better). those with whom friendships didn't grow (travis and matty especially)
became threats because i couldn't be sure where their allegiances stood, and i
worked directly or indirectly to keep them off the jury. i was the hoh in round
3 who nominated both travis and matty, to get them to play the game and see
where they really stood. i also believe my friendships kept me safe in round 2
when i was nominated...thank you for all who kept me in the game at that point.
i explain my social strategy for two reasons: (1) to show that i was actively
involved in the game and in getting to know people. while i did betray people in
the game, i see our frienships as true and i hope to continue those friendships
outside of the game. hopefully you will see that friendships and the game, while
intertwined, were distinct for me. i voted people out for strategic reasons, so
that i could position myself in the best possible way. orgs for me aren't about
making friends, but it's a great bonus that comes along with playing. (2) to
acknowledge that, while i believe i played a strong game, there's no way i (or
anyone) could claim to have reached the end on my own. i wouldn't be here in the
final 2 if it weren't for you all and that's the core of a good social game like
big brother.
competitions:
i was a strong challenge competitor in this game and used that as a strategy to
protect myself & my allies and to get myself further in the game. i was only
vulnerable to be voted out in three rounds (1, 2, and 4) and was not evicted the
only time i was nominated (round 2). aside from those rounds:
- i was hoh in rounds 3, 6, and 10 and believe i made strong, strategic
nominations.
- i found the hidden blue veto in round 1 (which i used in round 8), won the
diamond veto in round 7, and won veto again in round 9.
- in round 5, there was no hoh, but my team was first in the challenge and, as
its leader, i was safe and had the ability to break a tie if one arose.
also (and i hope she would admit to this), i was directly responsible for cealy
winning blue veto in round 2 and hoh in round 4. i solved those challenges
quickly and gave her the answers, both to secure a win and safety for our
alliance and to avoid seeming like i was winning too many challenges early on. i
also took 2nd place in the blue veto challenges in rounds 4 (bb mini) and 6
(musical chairs), though i will humbly admit being dominated by devon in those
challenges.
my strength at challenges kept me safe and, alongside my social game, was
crucial to how i got to the final 2.
as much as i adore velva, there's no comparison between our prowess in
challenges; she won only one competition (hoh in round 8) and was strongly
helped in that challenge by cealy. "but nate," you might say, "velva was
vulnerable to be nominated at all times, except in rounds 5 and 8...shouldn't we
reward her for escaping eviction so many times without hoh/veto to protect her?"
my answer is simple: i hope you'll agree that being proactive and keeping
yourself safe to avoid even the possibility of eviction is a much more secure
strategy than relying on others to keep you safe, round after round. alliances
can be strong, but this is bb secrecy we're talking about here...anything could
happen.
my main point:
regardless of how you feel i played the game or how you feel about me as a
person, i hope you can see that the main difference between me and velva is that
i DID play the game. i played to win and made active moves to further myself in
the game instead of floating to the top.
i was part of a central alliance, was strong in challenges, took risks (like
voting out devon, thus risking my friendships with him, stacey, and sarah), and
adapted to twists in order to better my position in the game. i always kept my
mind on how best to end up in the final 2 and worked hard to make it to the end
with someone i felt i had a good shot at beating. whether or not you liked my
game, i hope you can respect it.
i would be honored to earn your final vote.
again, it's been an absolute blast to play this game with y'all and i look
forward to addressing your comments/questions. see you on the other side!
VELVA
Hi Everyone!
I am so excited to be here in the finals! It has been so much fun playing in
Joe's game and meeting so many interesting people. It has been a blast and I am
sad to see it all coming to an end.
I am especially thankful for all the new friendships I have made in this game.
To me that is an extra bonus and I hope we can continue our friendship outside
the game. For those I didn't get to talk to as much I hope that we will have the
opportunity to play in other games and will get to know one another better.
Throughout this game I have tried to be as honest as possible and loyal to those
I've had an alliance with. I know this is not always viewed as the most popular
way to play Big Brother but it is the way I am most comfortable with and has
worked well for me in the past.
Thanks Joe for giving me the privilege to play in your game. And thank you to
all the players I was able to work with and get to know.
I look forward to your questions and will try to answer them as honestly and
completely as possible.
I am very pleased to be sitting next to Nate in the final 2 and wish him good
luck.
With their
opening statements out of the way it was time for the jury members to ask the
final two some questions. They were up in order they were evicted meaning Tye
was up first...
TYE
Congratulations
on making Final 2, Nate and Velva. Before I begin my questions, I would like to
say a little about the game.
This game had my head spinning the entire time. I had no idea what was going on,
who was allied with who, and I still don't know who put me up and who voted me
out. I was in the dark the whole time. I had pseudo-alliances with Devon and
Cealy. I say pseudo because we never really said out loud we were gonna be
allied, but I think it was implied. Obviously that didn't work out. So pretty
much, I was a fish out of water. I don't feel I even deserve to be on the jury.
I didn't play a great game. I hardly made the challenges and I never won
anything.
I don't feel the need to be an asshole and tear you guys apart, but I do have
some questions I would like you both to answer for me. I have a pretty good idea
of who I want to vote for, but I will not cast until you guys answer, so you can
definately change my mind.
QUESTIONS FOR NATE
thanks for
your questions, tye. sorry you felt like a fish out of water...i'll do my best
in answering your questions to fill you in on everything i knew about your
position in the game.
Nate, Do you know who nominated me and why I was evicted? I just want to know
what happened.
cealy was hoh
in round 4 and was the person who nominated you and sarah. i'll admit that she
consulted devon and i about her nominations but, in the end, she went with what
she thought was best for her and her game. i don't know if there was an
overwhelming reason why you were voted out or if it was just a person-by-person
decision.
in my case, i voted you out because i felt less close to you. after the bb mini
blue veto challenge in that round, sarah and i had a really great talk and
opened up to each other a lot. at that point, i felt less inclined to vote her
out.
the vote count for your eviction was 4-1 with 2 people not voting. part of
devon's reward that round was revealing two votes. he chose to reveal my vote
and eric's vote. we both voted to evict you. charlie had a big crush on you and
was the vote to keep you, or so i later found out.
Who was your least favorite player in the game?
my least
favorite player in the game was probably travis. not necessarily because of his
personality, but because he took a spot that could have belonged to someone else
and instead focused all his time on his own hosting gig. i suppose honorable
mentions could go to matty and jenna for the same reason, but at least they each
won a blue veto in round 1.
Who would win in a fight between Batman and Spiderman? Please be specific.
so, batman can
fly and has all his sweet gadgetry, including the batmobile and throwing stars
shaped like bats and all that jazz. spiderman has his web shooting ability, plus
he's pretty flexible and light on his feet. all that taken into account, i'm
going to have to give the edge to batman...sure spiderman could try and trap him
in a web, but batman could cut his way out, fly high to where spiderman couldn't
reach him and then cut up spiderman to pieces with his crazy arsenal of weapons.
spiderman's suit is also not armored like batman's, so he loses there, too.
batman wins.
Is there any reason I should vote for Velva to win? Be honest.
while i
believe i played the better game and have been less than praiseful of how velva
got to the f2, she had some positives. she positioned herself with a few key
people and was able to get by without having to lie or backstab too much.
there are people who prefer more subtle players and if you're one of those
people, you should vote for velva. that said, i still feel i played the better
game and would be honored to have your vote if you agree.
QUESTIONS FOR VELVA
Thanks Tye for
the congrats! I will do my best to answer your questions.
We hardly ever spoke in this game. I think we just weren't very compatible or
something.
We did have
one short chat in round 1. I don't know why we didn't connect better. I wish
things could have worked out differently.
That said, can you give me a good reason to vote for you to win?
I think you
should vote for me if you respect the way I played the game. I was able to make
a few key alliances which I was very loyal to. I intentionally did not make a
lot of alliances so I would not find myself committed to promises I would not be
able to keep. Instead I tried to build relationships with the other players in
the game and work with them on the vote and other game related things. I was
able to play the game without making any enemies that I am aware of. I was very
active and worked hard on the challenges even though I only won one and came
within seconds of winning another.
Is there anyone else on the jury you think deserves to be in the Final 2?
I believe
Cealy & Devon both would have been very deserving as final 2. Both were very
social & active, made deals & alliances, and won their share of challenges.
What do you know about my nomination and subsequent eviction?
Cealy won the
HoH in round 5 and nominated you & Sarah. She had heard the two of you applied
to this game together and were friends. She wanted to break up any possible
alliance the two of you might have.
CHARLIE
Ok look I'm sick
I have been for a few days at the moment my nose is stuff my head hurts and I
have a tooth ack. So I'm going to just hurry up and get this done. well I reall
wanted to be mean to one of you not the other but whatever I lied I wont be mean
well that mean and well my questions has to do with My favorite subject and the
only reall they that matters ME!!! I want to know what you thought about me.
Give me the LOWEST BLOW you can think of. and I dont want to here aboiut this
crap about I cant spell we know that. involed the game. and dont suger cote it.
I really wane you to dig in and just talk shit about me and please in voled the
game and things not in the game in my personal life. The better shit talk might
get my vote. and one last thing. and since we are talking about me Some of the
best things I did that people love was in I was talking shit about Eric. and no
Eric I wasn't just joking like you thought. I really didn't like you. but I want
you to talk shit about Eric as well. include things in this game and not thing
and the one that can out shit talk the other will get my vote.
LOVE ME
CHARLIE
oh one last thing I want a pic of the HOTTEST guy you can fine. as if you were
"senting me up on a date" who would you set me up with AND HE better be hot cuz
I dont do ugly. (and the only some what cute person besides me in this game was
jeremy that includes the girls I lied.)
NATE'S ANSWER
as with all these
jury questions, charlie, ask and ye shall receive:
you're the saddest excuse for a fag imaginable and you personify every horrible
stereotype that self-respecting gay men work hard to avoid. you're abrasive,
effeminate, bitchy, and unappealing. it's a shame you only hang out with hot
people because that makes you, by far, the least attractive of all your friends.
you're a materialistic little bitch who whined to me for multiple days around
christmas time when you didn't get the exact type of ipod you wanted or when
your sister got a digital camera when you've been asking for one for three
years...there are starving kids all around the world and all you're bitching
about is how your parents didn't blow their money on some huge present that you
clearly never deserved in the first place.
in my life as a gay man, i strive to be the opposite of everything you are and
everything you represent.
i don't think you being outrageous in group chats was a strategy...instead, i
think it was your terrible personality and extremely poor social skills shining
through. everyone kept you in the game as long as they did because they knew
you'd be an easy boot when you were finally nominated. you're not smart enough
to be a villain nor suave enough to be a cunning strategist. people laughed at
you, not with you.
your elf was the ugliest piece of shit i've ever seen and i assume you just gave
blowjobs to all the judges to win hoh that week. no one with half a mind and a
second grade art education would pick your shit-ass picture.
btw, i saw your porn and that shit was ridiculous (and not even any good). self
respect, much? you're the type of person people wish got aids and died on some
island far away from their kids.
and, honestly, you bowl? in a league? what kind of lame shit is that? if you're
so proud of being a twinky fag, why don't you do something that's actually a
sport and that'll give you muscle or useful skills. be a rower, a gymnast, shit
anything. a bowler? that's for fat lesbians and guys with small dicks.
it's too bad your mom had her stroke a few months ago and not before you were
born...that may have saved us all from you entirely.
good enough for you, charlie?
love
nate
ps - eric was absolutely right about his acne comment.
pps - here's your hot guy picture
and since i
strongly doubt i'll get eric's vote either, why not:
oh, eric. why do you think people kept nominating you? two equally telling
reasons: (1) no one really liked you (except for velva maybe) and knew the game
would be leagues better without you fumbling through it, and (2) your only worth
in this game was as a pawn. truth be told, i was elated when you were voted out
the week i nominated you/velva...y'all had to be broken up and i'd much rather
have had velva around than your useless ass. at least she has personality.
matty and jenna had more strategy and skill in their pinkie fingers than you
have in the entirety of your being.
and fuck, you're ugly. you know when charlie kept calling you short and fat? YOU
ARE. why don't you go eat the left side of the mcdonalds menu and choke on a
mcnugget. when i saw the previews for the movie cloverfield, i assumed the large
monster tearing up new york city was you looking for any buffet that would still
let you in without charging you a per-plate fee.
you read fan fiction and buffy comics. i don't think i even have to say
anything...that shit speaks for itself.
and btw, thinking you and i ever had a f2 alliance is the most hilarious thing
i've ever heard...clearly wishful thinking on your behalf. did you learn how to
play this game in the book, "orgs for stupidfuck asshats: volume 2"?
kisses
nate
ps - charlie was equally right about anything he ever said about you. he's a
great judge of character...well, except of his own.
pps - it's spelled DEFINITELY. not definately. fucktard. you know, i did a
search of all chat transcripts for the ENTIRE game and you're almost exclusively
the only person who cannot spell that word.
VELVA'S ANSWER
You know Charlie
I groaned when I saw this question. I've had a lot of questions that my first
reaction is how am I going to answer this but I believe this will be the most
difficult. There are several good things I can say about you and I wish it could
be balanced out with both the good & the bad. But this is your question so I
will abide by what you want.
You assumed there was an alliance between yourself and Nate & Devon. Of the two
you believed you were closer to Nate. In your mind it was real but apparently
that was not their intention. You didn't realize this until the Big Brother mini
game.
You waited until you were about to be voted off to try to strike up some kind of
deal with me. It might have worked better if this was done earlier in the game.
You can sometimes be mean to people and like to call them fat & ugly.
You really do not like Eric and have insulted him several times to his face and
in group chats.
Sometimes it is hard to follow what you are trying to say.
You seem to have a lot of bad luck what with your computer being stolen and
wrecking a couple of vehicles.
I believe you are still currently unemployed and it might be good to be working
or in school if you are not already.
You did a porn movie.
He may have let your negative comments get to him.
He wasn't able to keep his promise to Sammi not to vote for her when he made a
new alliance.
He didn't win any challenges.
ERIC
k yea
questions'll be included I guess...
I'd like to first start out by saying thank you for not letting Cealy get to the
final two because my decision is somewhat harder to make then it would have been
if she were there. But lets get to the point because this isn't about her, it's
about you two.
At this point, I really have no reason NOT to vote for Velva. Velva was honest
with me. Velva was loyal to me. Velva basically... is not scum. I respect her
and would love to see her win this game. Yep, I'm pretty bias right now but can
you blame me? Thats rhetorical.
Nate, the only time you were honest with me was when I was on the block. So
three times. You told me you would be there for me. I said the same thing and I
meant it. Did you? No. Because the third time you were HOH you nominated me. I
thought it was Devon. How ignorant right? Again, rhetorical. I was sure we had a
final two alliance at that point so saying in your opening statement we didn't
have one is bull. I never would have suspected it was you behind my eviction. I
truly thought when you said you would "see what you could do to save me" that
you had and I thought for sure I'd be safe because I had you on my side. But the
decision had obviously already been made after I opened my big mouth about being
hardcore to get Devon out.
Why should I vote for such a huge lier and backstabber? I don't care if
it's part of the game. It's lame and I don't like you for it.
P.S.
I have no questions for Velva.
P.S. X 2
For anyone who cares. I did not win an HOH. EVER. (Cealy)
NATE'S ANSWER
i respect your
view of the game and that's fine. it's not everyone's cup of tea and i expected
you to vote for velva anyway, as y'all were close in the game.
were you more on the fence, i would hope to sway you with the idea that, yes, i
did lie and backstab. more than most people, probably. the point is, though,
that you and everyone else knew that coming into a game like this (and called
secrecy for christ's sake!) that there'd be dishonest afoot. this isn't "big
brother: best friends 4ever!" and while i appreciate the friendships i developed
and that were real to me regardless of my backstabbing, my focus was always on
the game.
my one credit to velva is that she learned from matty and jenna's games and
realized that she could basically sit there, be nice to people, equivocate and
she wouldn't be voted out. silly me to think that actual gamesplay would be more
worth of a final vote than being nice and harmless.
velva was carried through the game and, frankly, i don't think she should be
rewarded for that. i feel like i proved myself to be proactive, a challenge
competitor, and at least good enough socially to get to where i am now. in
retrospect, my social game could have been much better and i'll carry that
lesson with me. i can't change the past, but i think i did an ok job in the game
considering the skill sets i possess.
i am truly sorry that i hurt you and hope we can talk after the game. please
vote for velva if you see fit but, even if you do, at least consider my
gameplay before doing so. that's all i can ask.
VELVA'S ANSWER
Hey Eric! I know
there are no questions for me to answer but I did want to tell you how much I
appreciate all the nice things you said about me. And thank you so much for your
vote.
It was great being in an alliance with you and knowing you were someone I could
trust and depend on. But even better was all our Harry Potter talks. That was so
much fun! I look forward to more of these chats after the game.
DEVON
Hey you two!
This is a long post, but if you want my vote, I suggest sucking it up and
reading it.
So, I first want to say congratulations to the both of you! Making the final 2
in a game is a tough feat, and I first want to say that I do believe that both
of you earned your spot in the final 2. And that makes me happy, because
sometimes the final 2 ends up not seeming all that deserving. I’m not one to be
bitter or jealous—but I’d be lying if I were to say I wasn’t jealous. I am a
little bit jealous because I honestly do feel I just messed things up really
really really badly the round I was evicted, and had I played that round in a
more clean-cut fashion, I would have had a fairly decent shot at the final 2.
But enough about “If I had done this” or “If you had done that” or “If Jenna and
Molly had been active and kicked everybody else’s butts”…you guys made it, and I
want to specifically talk about YOU tonight!
But first (to quote Julie Chen) I want to make some things very clear. Though I
have some idea of how I want to vote, I have not voted yet. My vote is prone to
change. When it comes to the final 2, I hate suckups, I hate liars, I hate
sweet-talkers. I like straight-shooters who are willing to admit the truth, even
if it’s the kind of truth that makes the jury want to strangle the final 2 with
their bare hands. So if you want my vote—and probably the votes of other jurors
(I’m looking at you Charlie!)—you’ll want to be real when answering my
questions. Nate, I know you’re not used to the concept of integrity, but just
try to have some when answering these questions.
I have individual questions for both of you. Please answer them in response to
this thread. Also, if in your opinion I seem to have gotten anything factual
wrong, feel free to call me out on it--but I suggest you do so with evidence,
because I'm likely to respond to anything you call me out on. Keep in mind when
answering this stuff that I'm a tricksy one, so you'll want to be attentive to
all I'm saying.
Anyways, here we go...I have bolded all the things I feel you need to respond
to. So pay attention to what's bolded.
STATEMENT AND QUESTIONS FOR VELVA:
Velva, first I want to say that I'm really glad you made the final 2! You were
one of my favorite people in the game just as a person. Unfortunately for you,
I'm not basing my vote on my perceptions of people as people. I'm basing my vote
on my perception of people as players. I think I have a sense of how you played
the game, but I don’t know what your perception of how you played the game is.
So let’s play a game: I have a list of 7 adverbs here. 3 of them are words
that I feel describe how you played the game. I want you to first pick 3 words
that you feel correctly describe how you played the game, and then I want you to
also pick the 3 words that you think I chose. Afterwards, we’ll compare!
Here are the words: honorably, cowardly, socially, foolishly, manipulatively,
quietly, intelligently
The three adverbs I have
chosen for myself are:
Honorably: I played the game with honesty & integrity. Socially: I tried to talk to everyone in the game not just about gameplay
but about personal things as well. Some people were easier to talk to than
others. Quietly: By nature I am a rather shy & quiet person. In games I do better
one on one with people and rarely am I in the spotlight.
The three adverbs you may have chosen for me are:
Honorably: I believe you would have found me honest with you throughout
the entire game even when you were about to be voted out. Cowardly: I really hope this is not the way you feel but you may think of
my gameplay as too much under the radar and look at me as a floater. Foolishly: I'm going with another negative adverb but I also hope I am
wrong in this. You may think I should have taken bigger risks in the game such
as aligning with you & Stacey rather than voting you out.
Now, on to the actual questions…sorry for there being so many!
1. I know we had a long talk about this right before I was evicted, but I’m
unconvinced that you told me the full story. So I want you to tell me the
straight-up, honest truth: why did you vote to evict me?
I voted to
evict you for several reasons. One was that at the time I didn't completely
trust you. In the previous round you had won the Blue Veto with the special
reward of giving names of 3 nominees to the HoH. I now knew the HoH to be Nate.
I believed you & Nate worked together on these nominations with Eric & I both
finding ourselves on the block.
In round 7 I heard you & perhaps Sarah were hoping to win the Diamond Power of
Veto and backdoor me. Apparently you changed your mind on this and decided to
have a night out rather than participate in the challenge. So with being a
possible target these last 2 rounds it put me on my guard with you.
If I was mistaken in either of these assumptions or was misled then I would
really like to hear your side of things.
Cealy & Nate wanted to turn things around. Instead of the easier vote between
Sarah & Stacey they wanted to backdoor you if one of us should win the Diamond
Power of Veto. In return we had a final 3 agreement. I agreed to this as I was
already having doubts about you.
When it came to the actual vote I almost backed out of it. You bought up several
good points as to why I should keep you in the game. I was very tempted to the
point I almost changed my vote. There were several reasons I didn't go through
with it.
One was I didn't want to betray my original alliance with Cealy. But there were
other reasons as well. Sarah was completely devoted to you winning the game. I
knew if the 2 of us found ourselves in final 2 that was a for sure jury vote for
you. The other was your friendship with Stacey. I feared the 2 of you might
stick together for the next few rounds of the game. I could see the 2 of you
making final 2 or at least another jury vote for the win.
In the end I felt I had a better chance sticking with my final 3 agreement with
Cealy & Nate.
2. On a similar note, why did you decide to stick with Nate after I told you
that he had been HOH in Round 6 and had nominated you and Eric? Did you just not
believe me when I said that, or what? This question is really crucial, so try to
answer it thoroughly.
At this point
in the game there wasn't too many people in the game I did trust. Nate was one
of those I didn't trust. I was uncertain with you as well. I really didn't have
many options opened to me. My alliance with Eric had been discovered &targeted
so I could no longer turn to him. Sarah and I had rarely if ever talked
strategy. Although I really liked Stacey she didn't really seem to be into the
game. That only left Cealy my original alliance. Although I had doubts about
Cealy as well we discussed it and were able to talk things out & put some things
behind us. Along with Cealy came the final 3 deal with Nate. I decided to
continue to trust Cealy which included Nate as well.
3. You and I talked a lot in the game, and in fact I sometimes felt I knew more
about your personal life than I did the personal lives’ of those who I was
allied with, namely Cealy and Nate…so in your opinion, why do you think we never
formed an alliance at any point in the game? What was holding us back?
I think we
worked well together without actually having to commit ourselves to an alliance.
We talked about the game and our fears. I think we trusted one another enough
that we didn't have to make false promises we might not be able to keep further
down the road. I think you knew I would not vote you out with or without an
alliance. I had no intentions of voting for you until I found out you had
targetted me.
I'm not sure if I am explaining this very well but at the time I feel like we
had enough trust & respect for one another that the word "alliance" was not
necessary.
4. Please take a moment to explain to me in detail what happened in the game
during the final 4.
Cealy, Nate, &
I had a final 3 agreement so it was important that Stacey not win this challenge
and cause one of us to be voted out.
The veto challenge was one I was actually prepared for. I had spent time
organizing my notes to show the order of events that happened in the game. The
challenge itself was to put in order those players who were evicted from the
game. I was just seconds behind Nate in winning this challenge.
I know this is probably not exactly what you are looking for but I think people
in this game have the idea I wasn't playing hard because I only won one
challenge. But I wanted to take this opportunity to show I was actually trying
to win these challenges even though someone always beat me to it.
Anyway Nate won veto. We did not have HoH this round so the vote was now between
Cealy, Stacey, & myself. There was no way I was going to vote Cealy so that only
left Stacey. There were no hard feelings from Stacey about this vote as she
appeared ready to leave the game.
Cealy & I voted Stacey. Stacey voted for Cealy. At first because of a
misunderstanding about the vote Nate did not vote but eventually voted for
Stacey as well.
5. Before I was evicted, I told you that if you made the final 2, I would
definitely vote for you unless it was against Sarah. Did you believe me when I
said that? Why or Why not?
I would really
like to believe this was true and not just a way to talk me into changing my
vote. I know we worked very well together in this game and I think we each
respected one another as a person and as a player even though we played entirely
different ways. So yes I believe you were telling the truth and would vote for
me in the final 2.
STATEMENT AND QUESTIONS FOR NATE:
Nate, I actually don’t want to say that much to you, but I still have a lot I
feel I need to say to you and none of it is nice. So if you want my vote, you’re
going to have to deal with the fact that I don’t like you as a PLAYER—that
is, I don’t think you played a good game. And you’re going to have to deal
with me saying that to you repeatedly for an entire essay. Brace yourself.
First of all, I think you were the most obviously fake person in the game, which
is a pretty hard feat to do considering Cealy is probably a man. From Day 1, you
were IMing me with the greeting “Hey Buddy!” when I barely even knew you. That
made me almost want to vote you out, not just because it was annoying but also
because it told me right off the bat that you were probably IMing everyone and
going “Hey Buddy!” with a cute little smiley face attached.
Which leads me to my major point in all of this…although you obviously played
this game right since you’re in the final 2, I think you played a pretty
sloppy social game. Your strategic game didn’t seem to be a whole lot
better—in fact, most of what you did from the final 8 on seemed completely
retarded and illogical.
Now you’re probably thinking I sound crazy, so let me give you an example.
In round 6, we were allied. Then you won HOH, and for some reason decided not to
tell me…when, hello, it only takes a fifth grader’s critical thinking skills to
add up the way people voted in the challenge and see that you had received at
least 5 golden keys and no black ones! Then after you tried to keep your HOH a
secret from me and I caught you red-handed in your lies, you decide to take a
leap of faith and reveal to me that you were the HOH in round 3, but also tell
me that you hadn’t trusted me enough to tell me so.
Nate, do you have any sort of rational common sense?
How did you expect me to react to something like that—did you honestly think you
would be able to hide your Round 6 HOH from me? And did you actually expect me
to trust you even more by “revealing” that you hadn’t trusted me enough in
previous rounds to tell me you were HOH in Round 3? It’s almost as though you
WANTED to ruin our alliance, make me not trust you, drive me away, and make the
game ten times more complicated for yourself…and that is what ended up
happening, because up until that very moment, I was 100% set on going to the
final 2 with you. In that alliance with Sarah, Stacey, me, and you, you were
NEVER the fourth wheel in my mind until this incident occurred.
By the way, those were all rhetorical questions. Don’t bother answering them
unless you feel like pissing me off and totally losing my vote.
So, for that incident and much more, I will say bluntly that going into this
final 2, I think you actually did sleep your way into being admitted to graduate
school at Stanford as you claimed in one of our first conversations, simply
because I can’t imagine there being any brain cells functioning in your head. I
don’t have much respect for you, and right now, I’m inclined to vote for Velva,
NOT because you betrayed me—that was probably the one smart thing you did in
this game from Round 6 on, even though I would have considered trying to repair
our shattered alliance had I stayed—but because you seem like an idiot.
This leads me to my questions.
1. In regards to the incident I described above…WERE you attempting to sever
our alliance? What was your reasoning for not telling me that you were HOH in
Round 6, and why did you then proceed to reveal to me that you were HOH in Round
3? Why didn’t you keep your Round 3 HOH a secret to be revealed at the final 2,
allowing yourself to be perceived as an even greater manipulator than before?
you want
fucking honesty, so i'm going to give it to you. NO, i was not trying to sever
our alliance. you want to know the pansiest thing about me in this entire game,
everyone? i was terrified of the damn 75% rule. honestly. it sounds lame, but
it's true. that was the one loophole in this game that could get someone out
and, though i trusted you and cealy most in the game, dev, i trusted no one
enough to tell them i was hoh. from my thinking, if i told you i was hoh, you or
cealy could come up with a plan to get me nommed by the 75% rule and then i'm
fucked. my strategy, as paranoid as it may have been, was to keep myself out of
the nomination chairs at all costs.
did i miscalculate by not telling you and cealy about my hoh, especially in
round 6? yes. it had become so routine for everyone to deny hoh wins that right
after i won in round 6, i stayed the party line and denied being hoh. it's only
when you confronted me and pointed out the basic math of the challenge and that
it had to have been me that won that i owned up to being round 6 hoh.
let me state this clearly for you and the jury to read: common sense and quick
thinking have never been strong suits. i've had to get by on other assets and i
did the best i could with what i had....i think that kind of adaptation is
better than riding coattails to the end. did i fuck up in the game? absolutely.
but i worked my hardest to make up for those mistakes, learn, and carry on.
the only reason that i went on to tell you that i was hoh in round 3 was because
you told me that you were hoh in round 1 earlier in that conversation. as a way
to attempt to earn back trust, it seemed to me like we were playing you show me
yours, i'll show you mine. call me naive, fuck, i don't know. at that point in
the game, voting you out NEVER crossed my mind. that only came later when i
found out you told cealy about my hohs and other stuff that only could have come
from you...that was the turning point for me in the game, when the midgame
turned into endgame. i realized you had no problem scheming on the side and that
you'd be tough to beat in f2, so i said, "fuck it, let's play".
2. Do you honestly think you played this game with strategic and social
smarts? If so, how, because I really don’t see it…
my confusion
is this: if you have such little faith in any game skills i might have, why form
an alliance with me? in terms of strategic/social game, i honestly do think i
did play with smarts. i answered this at length in my opening statements thread,
so i guess i'll point you there so i don't just retype it all. i feel i had a
strong game, though blunder-full as any game may be. i'm not as socially cooth
as many players in the game, but i was cooth enough to get as far as i did.
that's all i know to say.
3. On a totally different note, I want you to tell to me at what specific
moment you decided you were going to have to end our alliance and betray me at
some point later on in the game…that is assuming our alliance was ever real in
your mind in the first place. Were you planning to backstab me prior to the
final 7? Please give details, because this question is crucial in determining my
vote, moreso than the other ones.
my alliance
with you and cealy was real and true...in all honesty, it absolutely saved my
ass early in the game. if it weren't for you two and your connections, i would
most likely have been gone week 2. like i said above and in my opening
statements, the thought to even vote you out was quick and immediate, the same
round as the diamond veto. no other round before. i had no motive to do so.
none. i don't know how to communicate to you that me not telling you about my
round 6 hoh in no way implied i wanted to get rid of you. you can think that i'm
sucking up to you, i don't care. i'm telling you the truth. if you don't buy it,
vote for velva to win.
the thing is, you yourself admitted to me the round of the diamond veto where
you got voted out that you were planning to do the exact same to me - win
diamond and put me up to boot me - and had even conspired with stacey to do so.
to your credit, though, you backed out of that plan. your integrity and my
apparent lack of it has us each in our respective places. was i proud to vote
you out? no. did i feel at the time i had to do it? yes. i may go to stanford,
but i'm a scientist...we aren't always known for our social skills. i did the
best i could given the situation and what i perceived of it...we all made
mistakes and velva and i are the only ones under the magnifying glass because we
made it to f2. it's your jobs to roast us, and i accept that, but we're not the
only ones who played the game imperfectly.
Now, my fourth question for you demands some context, but it’s all in regards
to the final 4, and it also relates to you seeming like a strategic idiot.
At the final 4, there’s you, there’s Velva, there’s Cealy, and there’s Stacey.
Stacey is a wildcard who has only won one challenge that was determined by luck,
and she also has nobody in the game right now. Velva is seemingly on your side.
You also have an alliance with Cealy, but you SHOULD have known by that point in
the game that she was as shady as hell and definitely allied with Velva.
You win blue veto. You’re safe. In theory, you can do whatever the heck you
want—you won’t be going to the jury this round. This sounds like the PERFECT
chance to take out Cealy. Doing so would leave you in the final 3 with two weak
players who could never win a challenge on their own if their life depended on
it, in theory.
But what do you do? You decide to vote out Stacey with help from Velva and
Cealy. Why? I have absolutely no idea…
…or wait, just kidding, I have two possible ideas!
The first idea is that you’re retarded and an idiot, either because you felt
like making the game more complicated for yourself OR because you (falsely)
believed Cealy would take you to the final 2 if she won the final HOH. Either
way, you’re an idiot, because Cealy probably wouldn’t have taken you to the
final 2, and even if you were, you were planning to betray her anyways.
The second idea is the one I’m inclined to believe, simply because you can’t
possibly be so dumb as to actually trust Cealy. This idea is that Velva wanted
to vote out Stacey and refused to vote out Cealy. And for some reason, you
didn’t feel like making a tie out of the matter and just letting it all be
determined at random! This would suggest that you didn’t have power over Velva
like you might want to imply, but rather, that somehow Velva had the strategic
upper-hand and was able to get you to do what she wanted…
So this is my fourth question. Enlighten me.
4. What was your reason for voting Stacey out at the final 4—or more
specifically, “Are you fucking retarded or just Velva’s bitch?”
i admit that
one of my major mistakes of the game was misunderstanding how voting worked at
f4. i had a brainfart and, after winning blueveto, misread joe's instructions
and thought only the three others voted and that i only voted in a tie. when joe
asked for my vote, i realized the actuality of the situation but was being asked
for my vote immediately. like i said above, quick thinking isn't my forte and i
felt i didn't have enough time to think out the vote and whether or not it was
smart to betray cealy at f4 instead of f3. my gut instinct was to keep cealy, so
i voted with velva/cealy to get rid of stacey.
let me be clear about one thing: i ABSOLUTELY knew that cealy would NOT take me
to f2 if she won the last hoh. i'm not stupid. she's a smart player and knew
she'd wipe the floor with velva in a f2 vote. i knew if i won, i'd take velva. i
knew if velva won, she might take cealy, but there was a fair chance she'd take
me because she knows i'm more hated by the jury (hi stacey and sarah).
if i'd voted cealy out at f4, my chances are identical at f3 as they were in the
previous scenario: i could win f3 hoh, or velva wins f3 hoh and definitely takes
stacey (who she has a better shot at beating) or stacey wins f3 hoh and might
take either of us to f2. in either scenario, if i don't win, i have one person
who might take me and the other who definitely won't. i figured it's better to
vote out cealy at f3 when it's viewed as less aggregious than doing so at f4.
i'd already acted with enough aggregiousness (reference round 7).
in no way was i velva's bitch. in fact, she didn't have much say in anything.
she never made strong decisions, never led, and rode cealy all the way to the
end. you forget that she was the deciding vote to boot you...there was no way i
could keep you after putting you up after i won the diamond veto...it would have
made me look like a mixed up fool.
And two more questions for you, just so you're even with Velva...
5. Looking back on the game, in hindsight, when do you think you should have
started not trusting me, if ever? There is a very specific answer that
should be obvious if you know me in any way at all...
well, i'm not
sure exactly what you're getting at, but if i had to guess, i'd say i either
should have never started trusting you in the first place or i should have
stopped trusting you the day we had the conversation about me being round 6 hoh.
6. Rank all of the jury and the final 2 in terms of your perception of
their/your intelligence. Be sure to rank yourself too!
That last question is more for my curiousity than for any particular reason, but
it will likely influence my vote too. If you want my vote, it's probably best to
just be honest...
want the jury
to strangle me with both hands, you say? want honesty? here goes nothing. here's
my rank order of f9, in order of my perception of their intelligence, with first
name being most intelligent. sorry to offend anyone, just answering the man's
question.
tye
nate
cealy
devon
eric
sarah
charlie
velva
stacey
dev, look. i did my best in the game and worked with what i had. was i perfect?
did i play a flawless game? no. the fact is, though, is that i played and played
to get to the end. i didn't hit it out of the park, but i got around the bases
and here i am, approaching home plate. i'm sorry my actions soured our
friendship and i do hope we can be friends on the other side. if not, i
completely respect that and i'd probably feel the same way if the roles were
reversed.
vote however you want, dev, and i'll respect it. if you think any of my answers
were bullshit, please call me on them. i've answered as best i can and that's
all i can do.
7. Do you
really, honestly feel that you were loyal to Cealy for the entire duration of
the game? And on that note, I’m done. Good luck to both of you, and may the most
deserving person win!
it may hurt
you to hear this and probably further my persona as some lying backstabber, but
i was always loyal to cealy. i joined with you/stacey/sarah only because you all
came to me and offered it to me, plain and simple. how stupid would i have been
to turn down that kind of alliance, especially with people like stacey/sarah
with whom i wasn't as close with at that point? sure, we talked about getting
out cealy but i remember talking about getting out everyone not in that
alliance; al that talk was just talk...it was me going along with what y'all
were obsessing about. did i actually want cealy out? no. if i had, i
would have put her up when i was hoh in the round i nommed eric/velva. me saying
"oh yeah, cealy!" or "oh yeah, someone else!" was just to get in good with you
all so that i could make use of the alliance for as long as it would last me.
we all, at one point or another, thought about voting everyone else out,
regardless of how intensely we held the thoughts. you thought of getting me out
briefly, for example, but you didn't. nevertheless, you had the thought. that's
the nature of this kind of game, and for anyone to judge me for postulating
about getting rid of anyone is hypocritical...we all did it. i was just more
proactive about it to secure my place in the game.
and as far as not trusting cealy, i trusted her the most of anyone and - even
then - didn't trust her 100%. how can you trust someone completely in a game
where the whole point is for each person to be the last one standing? i trusted
people to different degrees. i trusted cealy the most, then you until you sold
me out. we were both paranoid that round, i wish things could have worked out
differently, but i can't change the past and here i am, atoning for my sins.
it's easy for velva not to have to atone for many sins when she didn't even do
much in the first place.
SARAH
Hello Nate and
Velva. Congratulations on making the final two. It's no easy feat, but this next
round I am positive will be the hardest round of them all. Good luck
First of all THANK YOU for getting Cealy out of the game. I think I literally
screamed and jumped up and down for joy when I found out she wasn't in the final
2. Lame? Uhhh, I know, but that's me. This isn't an easy decision for me
however.
I'd like to address Nate first.
Nate, I had been saying in my confessionals and to you for weeks about how you
and Devon were my #1 and 2 in this game in friendship and trust. Obviously, I
was never that high on either yours or Devon's list of allies, which hurts me.
You were someone I genuinely enjoyed talking to and I felt that we could be
great friends. Every conversation we had was cool, non forced, comfortable and I
think we definitely connected. Key phrase: I think. Everything I'm getting from
your previous answers has proved otherwise.
So Nathan, for some questions to answer and ponder about, I'd really expect your
full honesty with these, no more BS answers okay??
QUESTIONS FOR
NATE
1. I'd like you to explain our entire relationship to you for the entire
course I was in this game, from your perspective please. Why didn't you trust me
as much as the fake Cealy? Did I do something wrong? Were you even the least bit
threatened by me? How close did you ever feel to me? Also, please mention any
time you have ever lied to me in this game.
here are my
notes on you from round 1: SARAH: From Arizona. Junior at Arizona State.
Studying English with a concentration in creative writing and wants to write a
novel one day. Has a brother named Nate (Nathan).
up until the bb mini blue veto in round 4, i felt that our conversations were
fun and casual, but too sporadic and not as deep as the conversations i was
having with people like cealy, devon, eric, or charlie. in these games, i tend
to see the quieter people (of which i counted you as one) as threats to me
because i don't know where they stand. they could be with me, but i tend to
assume the worst and make my next move based on that. i felt that, while we'd
had great conversations, they never got to the level where i felt i could trust
you if i were in serious danger, especially late in the game. people like "fake
cealy" i trusted more because they'd always been true to me and our
conversations had been deep and multi-faceted. i had a good idea of where they
stood. you didn't do anything wrong - our friendship just hadn't clicked at that
point.
after i voted you out of the bb mini veto game in round 4, we actually had a
really great talk and opened up a lot to each other...that's when my opinion of
you changed and that's actually what caused me to vote to evict tye that round.
i saw you as a much more likeable and trustworthy person then.
when the alliance of you/stacey/dev/me came around, i was happy to have been
asked to be a part of it, but nervous that i was the fourth wheel. i knew dev
was close to both you and stacey, and i knew of his alliance with me/cealy, so i
saw that he was double dipping and setting himself up to be the center of two
perfect alliances. i believed at that point, whether it was true or not, that if
it came down to a f4 of the four of us, i'd be the first out. i was very
cautious about that fourway alliance, but still trusted you and felt close to
you.
my opinion of you changed again the round dev was voted out. i won diamond veto,
took stacey down and put devon up. while i knew you would be mad that i'd
betrayed the fourway alliance, i never in a million years you'd threaten to quit
the game and beg to be voted out in place of devon. i saw you give up because
you had no more allies left in the game - or so you said - and that struck me in
two ways: first, seeing you give up made me lose much respect for you as a
player of the game; second, you saying you had no one left hurt, since you
thought that me voting out devon automatically implied that i was cutting my
ties to you and stacey as well...that was not the case at all. you assumed i
wanted to target you next, but that wasn't on my mind.
f you want absolute honesty and no bs, here's the kicker: i was worried that
round that if you or stacey quit, there wouldn't be an eviction and dev would
get to stick around to pulverize me. joe told me that if stacey had quit, the
eviction would have continued b/c both noms were still in the game, but if you
quit, there would not have been an eviction and devon would have stayed. you
wouldn't have been allowed on the jury, but devon would have stayed and killed
me.
the round you were voted out, you and stacey were the only options since velva
was hoh and cealy and i each had blue vetoes. we decided to vote you out because
you were the bigger challenge threat of the two of you and you'd almost beaten
stacey at the round 8 blue veto competition. my view of you was still sour from
the round before where you all but gave up.
so, that's my view on our relationship. as any friendship, it changed over time.
i do really like you as a person, especially after our talk in round 4, but my
respect for you as a player dropped to zero when you begged for over an hour to
quit the game when devon was nominated. as a friend, i felt close to you, and
maybe that's why your meltdown that round was so painful to me. and that's not
fucking bs.
as has been pointed out previously, i seemed to have lied a fair amount in the
game. i had no reason to lie to you personally before the final 6 and don't
believe i did, though please correct me if i'm wrong. i did lie in rounds 3 and
6 when i said i wasn't hoh when i was, but i even lied to my closest allies -
cealy and devon - about that.
at the final 6, when i decided to use the diamond veto on devon, i'll admit i
lied to you, dev, and stacey that entire round, saying we were going to put up
cealy and on how she'd learn her lesson! i had to lie in order to prevent devon
from going through with his simliar plan to backdoor me.
the next round, when you were voted out, i was probably not so concrete as to
which of you/stacey i was voting out, but at that point i think you both wanted
out anyway. when we talked about me being "the only person you had left" after
dev was nommed, i initially thought about working with you until the f2, but
then cealy told about a conversation she'd had with you that was strikingly
simliar. i realized you were playing the "woe is me" card to at least me and
cealy, maybe velva too, and saw you as a threat if you wormed your way in
enough.
2. How would you say you kept true to your morals throughout this entire
game? Do you even have any?? Any respect at all for yourself and your fellow
players?
first off, i
never claimed to have morals when i entered this game. i never took an oath
swearing integrity or anything. i'm certainly not wearing a scouts uniform. to
judge me on morals or integrity or standards you assume i enter the game with is
unfair. you have to judge me where i'm at, not what you assume of me. in real
life, i have strong morals, but part of playing orgs for me is the escape and
the creation of personas based on, but not exactly equal to, myself.
i do respect myself and my fellow players but i know at the end of the day that
it's a game and that's what we all signed up for, or at least i thought. i later
found out that people like stacey were more in it for the friendships, but
that's not why i play orgs.
3. To be frank, I think you'd have had a better chance at beating Cealy in the
F2. Cealy is definitely not loved at all and I know this and I think most people
would have voted for you over her. So why did you evict her instead of Velva?
Did you not think that the jury might have respected and liked Velva more than
you? Did you really think the jury was all so in love with Cealy that she'd
win??
not having any clue how
the evicted jury members felt about cealy, i had to assume they liked her way
more than they liked me. she was social and seemed to get along with everyone. i
thought that if i took her to f2, we'd have played similar games so we'd be
compared directly against each other - she would have wiped the floor with me,
or so i believed at f3. i didn't think the jury was in love with cealy, but she
and i both lied, backstabbed, etc., so we were equal on those fronts. i figured
her social game would win out over mine, even if i did do better in the
challenges.
i saw velva as a player who rode coattails and didn't play as strong a game and
i thought i'd have a better shot against a player like that in the f2. i hope i
was right.
4. Please explain why Velva should get my vote. My vote
velva should
get your vote because she played the game you hoped to play and did much less
lying and backstabbing than i did. you seem to respect her approach to the game
more and should vote along those lines.
5. Please explain why you should get my vote. Not why you should win, but why
you deserve my vote.
i should get
your vote because i played a strong game and honestly did value your friendship.
i was strong in challenges, strong enough in the social game to get to where i
am, and was a proactive player. velva went along with the plan to vote out
devon, but did nothing else substantial in the game.
i should get your vote because you want to see someone strong win. you don't
want your season of big brother to be remembered like survivor guatemala was
remembered when, at the finale, everyone was like "danni won? really? who the
hell is she? what did she even do?"
and, frankly, because i was the one to vote out cealy, which you seemed to be
quite happy about.
QUESTIONS FOR
VELVA
Now on to Velva
Velva, I know we didn't talk very much throughout this entire game. I don't
think we ever really connected or felt comfortable with each other, to be
honest, but that doesn't mean I'll automatically vote for you to win, or not
vote for you to win.
So where do I start? You were a silent player. But I am not one to think that
silent means you suck. Others might, but that's not my opinion. I like people
who can stick it out under the radar and do behind the scenes work, which is the
impression that I am getting based on what you and Nate have been saying. This
is how I wanted to play this game, but I failed at this strategy.
But you have to be a little careful by how much under the radar you choose to
play. Some people could say you did nothing in this game but ride the coattails
of Nate and Cealy and that you commanded their every wish. I'm willing to give
you the benefit of the doubt and I pray that your voice was heard during this
game. If not, then I don't see a reason at all to vote for you.
So for my questions
1. I know all about the Devon thing, so I don't need to hear about that
again. Were there any big moves in the game you made at all. Did you ever tell
your leaders Cealy and Nate who you wanted out and did they ever listen to you?
Or was it always "Velva, do this. Velva, do that"?
Before coming
into this game I did a little research into Joe's other games. This gave me an
idea of the kind of challenges to expect and what possible twists there might be
out there. This actually helped me several times as I understood at the onset of
a challenge what was expected of me.
When I came into this game I wanted to make a few key alliances but not too
many. The alliances I would make I intended to stay true to and hoped it would
last throughout the entire game. Cealy, Eric, & I had an alliance that lasted
basically the whole game for Cealy & I and until round 6 with Eric until he was
voted out. I was very careful not to make any other alliances until the final 3
alliance I made with Cealy & Nate at round 7.
Instead of making an abundance of alliances I tried to develop relationships
with the other players in the game. We discussed various aspects of the game and
who we felt should be voted out of the game. There were no promises or alliances
made that could be broken later in the game. I was able to work with different
players without that commitment. But the relationships I established wasn't all
game related. I also wanted to get to know the person I was talking to.
I won one challenge and came close to winning the last Blue Veto. I would like
to say I won more but it wasn't from lack of trying. I did my best on all of
them but this game had some really strong competitors and they were just so much
faster.
I worked hard on my confessionals. This helped me to sort my thoughts out on the
different things happening in the game. It was also a great way to go back &
review what I was thinking at the time particularly when answering jury
questions. I kept a record of how all of the events fell into place which was a
great help in the challenge I almost won and again in answering these questions.
I hope this gives some understanding as to how I played the game. I played hard
without it really appearing so. I was able to stay loyal to my alliances and
develop relationships with others without making promises I could not keep. It
is hard to pinpoint one big move I made. I think my big move is how I played the
game overall from start to finish.
Did you ever tell your leaders Cealy and Nate who you wanted out and did they
ever listen to you? Or was it always "Velva, do this. Velva, do that"?
Nate and I did not have an alliance until round 7 when we agreed to a final 3.
Before that it was mostly general chit chat with some game talk.
I never saw Cealy as my "leader". We discussed the game together, our fears, and
who we wanted to vote out. Most of the time we agreed with one another as to who
we wanted voted out. One of these exceptions was the first vote when Cealy
wanted to keep Molly and I wanted Eric to stay in the game. Cealy voted Molly.
In round 2 the vote was between Nate & Sammi. This time Eric wanted to vote for
Nate to fulfill the promise he made to Sammi. Cealy & I wanted to vote for Sammi
because we feared a possible alliance between her & Travis. In the end he voted
for Sammi. I bought up Eric here because he was part of our alliance.
In round 3 there was an inactive and semi-active person on the block. Most of
the players wanted Travis voted out rather than inactive Matty as we saw Travis
as a potential strong threat. I don't think Cealy or I influenced one another's
vote in any way that round. Most of the players were in a common agreement and
willing to give Matty a chance to become active.
In round 4 Cealy put you and Tye on the block. Although Cealy & I had an
alliance earlier in the game she did not confide in me she had won HoH or who I
would have wanted nominated. It was several rounds later before I found this
out. I must have been her # 2 alliance at that time and she was more with Devon
& Nate. Again most of the players wanted Tye voted out or else could have gone
either way so there were no conflicts.
In round 5 the vote was between Cealy, Eric, & Charlie. As I had an alliance
with both Cealy & Eric the decision was already made for me to vote out Charlie.
In round 6 the vote was between Eric & myself so obviously I had no vote and
Cealy voted for Eric rather than me.
Round 7 was when I agreed to a final 3 with Cealy & Nate in return I voted for
Devon when he was backdoored. As you said earlier this has already been covered.
In round 8 the vote was between you & Stacey. I got the impression Cealy was
more inclined to vote out Stacey rather than you. But I pushed for you to be
voted out because I felt you had the better chance of pulling off a win in the
next challenge. You were voted off.
By round 9 Stacey was the only one left to vote for who was not in our alliance.
What I hope I have shown is that Cealy & I discussed the votes but we did not
obligate either one of us to vote a certain way. In fact in a couple of rounds
it was the person I wanted to get voted out who was evicted rather than the one
Cealy wanted.
I hope I have also shown that I not only talked to Cealy about the vote but to
other players in the game. I may or may not have influenced anyone's vote. No
one told me how to vote and then I blindly followed. I voted the way I felt was
best for that particular round.
2. Any other close allies than Cealy and Nate? Please explain your relationship
with every single jury member and why you think the relationships you have with
them would benefit you in this vote.
Tye:
Tye was voted out before I really had a chance to get to know him. We had one
short chat which I initiated. But for some reason we didn't really seem to
connect. I don't really think this one chat will influence Tye to vote my way. I
think my one hope here is how I played the game and if he agrees with my way of
playing.
Charlie: Charlie and I talked quiet a bit about the game as well as other
things outside the game. But we did not have an alliance with one another. I
think he would have liked to make a deal of sorts with me when he was being
voted out but I really couldn't even consider it since Cealy & Eric were my only
other option to vote out. I think Charlie would understand this and does not
have any hard feelings that would affect his voting for me now.
Eric: Eric and I along with Cealy had an alliance since the beginning of
the game. We worked very good together in the game and trusted one another. We
remained loyal one to the other. Eric has already said in his post that he is
voting for me because of the loyalty I showed him.
Devon: Devon and I have talked several times since the beginning of the
game. Many of our discussions were game related whereas we also talked about
things outside the game. Even though we would discuss the upcoming vote and
other game related things we did not form an alliance. I believe that for the
biggest part of the game we trusted one another without having to make promises
or alliances. I believe we had a good relationship in this game that will help
me in this vote. Devon told me he would vote for me if I reached final 2 and was
not up against you.
Sarah: You mentioned earlier that we did not talk very much in this game.
I'm not sure why we didn't feel more comfortable with one another. I wish it had
been otherwise. We did not form an alliance although I think you would have
liked to have worked together after round 7 to vote out Cealy & Nate. I don't
think the relationship or lack of it will influence your vote. I think you will
be basing your vote as to whose gameplay you agreed the most with.
Stacey: I tried to build a relationship with Stacey and get to know her
better. I felt we were sort of alike in that we were both rather quiet. Stacey
and I did not form an alliance and rarely if ever had much game talk. It was
more friendly chit chat. I think trying to form a relationship with Stacey might
benefit me in the vote because I did it without expecting anything in return.
Cealy: I think everyone knows by now Cealy and I have had an alliance the
majority of the game. We worked very well together and discussed things in the
game without one having dominance over the other. I was very loyal to Cealy in
spite of some doubts I may have had. I hope this loyalty and our relationship in
the game will have a positive effect on her vote.
3. Thank you for almost voting to evict me over Devon, I think had you done
that, then Devon would have come back and slaughtered Cealy and Nate. So did you
just want Nate and Cealy to be successful? Why didn't you keep Devon in, thus
ruining their plan?? Didn't you think that evicting me over Devon could have
actually helped you even more? (though that question is kind of a moot point,
since you're in the final 2)
I felt I had a
better chance with Cealy & Nate as we had an actual final 3 agreement. The plan
was to first vote out Devon and then you & Stacey. I had no guaranteed of a
final 2 other than winning the challenge. I was hoping for a non-live challenge
I might possibly have a chance of winning. At that time I didn't really think
either of them would take me to final 2 as I suspected they had a final 2
agreement among themselves.
There were too many uncertainties in keeping Devon in the game. I knew he and
Stacey were friends so I figured they would stick together and possibly even
make it to final 2 together. If by chance Devon & I were in final 2 together I
felt he already had 2 sure jury votes for him to win. One being yours because
you showed such loyalty to him in your willingness to be voted off in his place.
The other was Stacey since he said they were friends. There would have also been
a strong possibility that I would have lost Cealy's & Nate's possible votes
since in order for all of this to happen means I went back on my word & betrayed
them.
4. Was your plan going in to this game to be an under the radar player? Or
did this just happen??
The way I
played this game is actually the way I am in real life. I don't set out to be
under the radar. I am by nature a rather quiet and shy person and I guess that
just comes out in these games. Even though I may be seen as UTR I still play the
game hard and I am very active. It is just not as obvious with so many other
dynamic personalities in the game.
5. Why should I vote for Nate over you?
You should
vote for Nate if you respect his way of playing the game. He made a lot of deals
& alliances and those big moves people seem to want from a game.
6. Why should I vote for you for the win??
I think you
should vote for me if you respect my way of playing the game. I was able to play
an honest game with a few key alliances who I remained very loyal to. I did not
make any enemies that I know of. I played hard and was very active but in a
quieter sort of way.
Thank you in advance for reading and I suspect answering these questions
honestly. And once again, good luck!
STACEY
Congrats Velva
and Nate for making the f2.. I think. I believe that anyone who makes it far is
deserving of making it far, no matter how they played what they did, just
because they must have done something right to make it. cough* Anyway, I only
have one question for the both of you.
Since I'm such a big idiot, I really don't know how to read that well, so I
havent read any of your comments or answers to the other jurors questions. So
what I want you to do instead of forcing me to have a brain overload is to just
tell me the most important facts from the other jurors questions. Tell me
whatever you think I need to know in order to vote, and remember to keep it
slow.
Thanks guys, and much love.
NATE'S ANSWER
So, this is how I
saw the jury questions...I apologize to Velva (or the jurors) in advance if I
misrepresent anything in this synopsis:
TYE: He asked for information about his eviction and all things game-related to
him, which Velva and I gave him pretty matter-of-factly. He also asked me who I
thought would win in a fight between Batman and Spiderman...clearly Batman wins.
CHARLIE: Wants to talk about himself more. Asked us each to say the worst
possible things about him we could think of. I gave it my all and Velva hasn't
yet responded (as of when I posted this).
ERIC: Hates my guts and is assumedly voting for Velva. Called me a liar and
backstabber and asked why I should win the game. My response: I played a strong
and proactive game while Velva was carried through the game. He did not ask
Velva a question.
DEVON: Asked Velva why she didn't stick with him until the end and she said she
thought she had a better chance with me and Cealy. Other than that, it seems
like Devon and Velva adore each other. Devon thinks I played a "pretty sloppy
social game" and thinks I was a strategic retard. I defended myself and my game,
but he didn't care.
SARAH: Asked me about our relationship and how I saw it throughout the game. I
said that my friendship with her was slow but grew to be strong, until she
threatened to quit after I nominated Devon. She asked if I had any morals and I
told her that I never stated anywhere whether I had morals and that it wasn't
fair to judge me based on her assumptions. She said Velva was a silent and under
the radar player. Velva said she played a game building relationships while
promising things to only a few people.
Aside from that, anything else I'd want to say I put in my opening statements.
Basically, I believe I played a strong game, was dominant in challenges, and was
good enough at the social game to get to the F2.
VELVA'S ANSWER
Questions or
Comments for Me:
Were there any big moves in the game
you made? (Cealy & Sarah)
Before coming into this game I researched Joe's other games to prepare myself
for the kinds of challenges & twists Joe might have.
My plan was to make a few key alliances but not too many. Cealy, Eric, & I had
an alliance that lasted basically the whole game for Cealy & I and until round 6
with Eric. I was very careful not to make any other alliances until the final 3
alliance I made with Cealy & Nate at round 7. I was very loyal to my alliances.
Instead of making an abundance of alliances I tried to develop relationships
with the other players in the game. There were no promises or alliances made
that could be broken later in the game.
One of my biggest moves was voting Devon out of the game. I was approached by
Nate & Cealy and asked to vote for Devon in exchanged for a final 3 deal. I saw
this as my best chance of making it to the final 3 and hopefully final 2.
Why did I vote to evict Devon? (Devon)
At that particular time I didn't completely trust Devon. In the previous round I
believed Devon & Nate worked together on the nominations and put Eric & I on the
block.
I had a final 3 alliance with Cealy & Nate and wanted to stay loyal to it. I
also knew Sarah was completely devoted to Devon and would be a jury vote for
Devon. Devon told me the two of you were friends and I felt that would be
another jury vote for Devon or perhaps the two of you reaching final 2 together.
Why did I decide to stick with Nate after I was told he was HOH in Round 6
and had nominated Eric & I? (Devon)
At this point in the game there weren't too many people in the game I did trust.
I really didn't have many options opened to me. Sarah, you, and I rarely if ever
talked strategy. That only left my original alliance with Cealy. Along with
Cealy came the final 3 deal with Nate.
Was your plan going in to this game to be an under the radar player? Or did
this just happen? (Sarah)
The way I played this game is actually the way I am in real life. I am by nature
a rather quiet person. Even though I may be seen as UTR I still play the game
hard and I am very active.
At this point, I really have no reason NOT to vote for Velva. Velva was
honest with me. Velva was loyal to me. Velva basically... is not scum. I respect
her and would love to see her win this game. (Eric)
Who do you think I am going to vote, and why? (Cealy).
Cealy would vote for me out of respect for the kind of game I played even though
it was different from hers and because I was always loyal and honest with her.
Can you give me a good reason to vote for you to win? (Tye)
Tye should vote for me if he respected the way I played the game. I was able to
make a few key alliances which I was very loyal to and built relationships with
other players in the game. I was able to play the game without making enemies.
Why doesn't Nate deserve to win. (Cealy)
The thing that makes Nate less deserving of winning BB Secrecy is his dishonesty
in the game. Players who were in an alliance with Nate were evidently betrayed
and voted out by him. Nate played the game hard but he showed disloyalty to his
alliances and people who trusted & depended on him.
Questions or Comments for Nate:
Was I really your
number one? (Cealy)
you were absolutely my number one, followed quite closely by devon. you were the
first person i truly bonded with and, while i had a close connection with devon,
always had you at the top of my list. towards the end, i knew i'd never be able
to beat you in a jury vote, but wanted you in the game because of my alliance
towards you. i had the chance to vote you out in the final 4 by forcing a tie
and then breaking it to evict you, but i rejected that notion.
Do you really think you deserve my vote? and why. (Cealy)
i would hope to get your vote. i know that you were close to both me and velva,
but i think we've been through a lot more and that i've proven myself to you
time and again (minus the last vote, which i've already explained). yes, i
withheld info from you at certain points in the game, but it was never against
you. i never lied to you except at f3.
Who do you think I am going to vote, and why. (Cealy)
brain: me. as much as we went through, i was always loyal to you. even when i
withheld information, is was never done in a way that worked against you. from
knowing you, you respect people who play the game to win and who make moves to
better themselves. i like to think that you and i are similar players, except
that i'm much rustier at the social game.
heart: velva. she's the sweetheart, was your home away from home. she was true
and though you might not respect her strategy as much, she holds a special place
in your heart.
I'd like you to explain our entire relationship to you for the entire course
I was in this game, from your perspective please. (Sarah)
but my respect for you as a player dropped to zero when you begged for over an
hour to quit the game when devon was nominated. as a friend, i felt close to
you, and maybe that's why your meltdown that round was so painful to me.
at the final 6, when i decided to use the diamond veto on devon, i'll admit i
lied to you, dev, and stacey that entire round, saying we were going to put up
cealy and on how she'd learn her lesson! i had to lie in order to prevent devon
from going through with his simliar plan to backdoor me.
Sarah's Response:
I am offended that you lost all respect for me as a player when I "threatened"
to quit. My whole reasoning was that if I was evicted over Devon, your plan
would have failed, and that would have made me feel like a winner. If I can't
win, why not make the cocky jackasses Cealy and Nate feel like losers?
Unfortunately that didn't happen.
I'm going to be 100% honest here, Nate. At first, when I read that you and Velva
were the final two, I was inclined to vote for you for the win, but then I read
the answers to all the questions and I am doubting myself. I do think that
another part of the game is to not piss people off. It's a strategy that is
rarely thought of and respected, but I think it is really something to consider,
especially since it is tremendously hard for a player to accomplish. I mean
Velva did a lot of things right, she was social enough, made friends, made true
allies, was extremely loyal to them, earned respect, won challenges and didn't
piss anyone off in the process. How do you get that far and still manage to not
piss people off? So why not just give her the win now? Competition wins don't
mean shit to me, to be honest and it looks to me like she got her way the whole
time as well.
Please explain why Velva should get my vote. My vote (Sarah)
velva should get your vote because she played the game you hoped to play and did
much less lying and backstabbing than i did. you seem to respect her approach to
the game more and should vote along those lines.
On a totally different note, I want you to tell to me at what specific moment
you decided you were going to have to end our alliance and betray me at some
point later on in the game. (Devon)
the thing is, you yourself admitted to me the round of the diamond veto where
you got voted out that you were planning to do the exact same to me - win
diamond and put me up to boot me - and had even conspired with stacey to do so.
to your credit, though, you backed out of that plan. your integrity and my
apparent lack of it has us each in our respective places. was i proud to vote
you out? no. did i feel at the time i had to do it? yes.
Nate, the only time you were honest with me was when I was on the block. So
three times. You told me you would be there for me. I said the same thing and I
meant it. Did you? No. Because the third time you were HOH you nominated
me.....I never would have suspected it was you behind my eviction. I truly
thought when you said you would "see what you could do to save me" that you had
and I thought for sure I'd be safe because I had you on my side.(Eric)
Is there any reason I should vote for Velva to win? Be honest. (Tye)
while i believe i played the better game and have been less than praiseful of
how velva got to the f2, she had some positives. she positioned herself with a
few key people and was able to get by without having to lie or backstab too
much.
there are people who prefer more subtle players and if you're one of those
people, you should vote for velva. that said, i still feel i played the better
game and would be honored to have your vote if you agree.
Question For Both Nate & Me:
Charlie wanted Nate & I to talked about
his favorite subject: Charlie. He wanted us to give him the LOWEST BLOW we could
think of.
Basically Nate did a much better job than I did with his question.
CEALEY
QUESTIONS
FOR VELVA
hey velva! i adore you, but i
came into this game giving it everything i had. i couldn't fathom ever leaving
beyond the spot of final two. but here i am. i would love to vote for both of
you to win... but realistically i wanted to win. i sit here not bitter, not
unimpressed, but torn. i think nate deserves to win when it comes to the two of
you...but i believe you deserve my vote. i think you played a strong game no one
will notice. you didn't have to lie to people, you weren't lazy and inactive.
you had alliances, so that means you didn't float. the thing is you didn't do
anything substancial.
1.) could you tell me a move you made in this game?
One of my biggest moves was
voting Devon out of the game. I had heard Devon and perhaps Sarah & Stacey were
hoping to win the Golden Veto and put me up instead. Apparently this plan got
changed as Devon was unable to attend the challenge. I was then approached by
both Nate & you and asked to vote for Devon if he instead was backdoored and
placed on the block.
I personally did not want to vote out Devon as I had enjoyed talking to him &
getting to know him. But I agreed for a number of reasons. One was he apparently
had planned to backdoor me himself originally. The other was more of a strategic
move. There was now a final 3 agreement between myself, you, & Nate. I saw this
as my best chance of making it to the final 3 and hopefully final 2.
When it came to the actual vote I almost backed out and voted Sarah instead.
Sarah and I had only a few chats & rarely any game talk whereas Devon and I had
talked a great deal both about the game and other things. I was very close to
letting my personal feelings take over in the game.
But my alliance with you won out. We have had an alliance since the beginning of
the game and if I changed my vote this would more or less be going against our
alliance and putting you in danger of being voted out the next round as you
could not compete for HoH.
Another reason I voted Devon out was I felt I had a better chance of making the
finals with you & Nate then I would with Devon. Devon had a friendship with
Stacey and it made me very uncertain as where I would stand with the 2 of them.
In the end all went as planned and the 3 of us did make it to the final 3 and as
I had hoped I made final 2. The sad thing is you did not make it with me. I
would have loved sitting next to you in the final 2.
2.) Could you relate each jury member to a past survivor.
Tye: Brady from Vanuatu.
Physically Brady looked like a very good contender to make it to the finals.
Instead he was viewed as a physical threat and voted off because of it. I
believe Tye was also viewed as a potential threat and was voted off early before
he had a chance to shake things up in the game. Charlie: Rupert from his season in Pearl Islands. Rupert is one of my
favorite Survivors. He was so outrageous in his season and did so many wild &
unexpected things. He was such fun to watch. Charlie reminds me of Rupert
because he would say so many crazy & off the wall things and kept the game fun &
lively. Both games lost a dynamic personality when they were voted out of the
game. Eric: Cedric Diggory. Oops not a Survivor but that's who I think of when
Eric comes to mind. Seriously the Survivor Eric reminds me the most of is Brian
from Guatemala. Brian was a huge fan of Survivor to the point where he studied
the game and wrote papers on it. On the show he had such enthusiasm and a strong
desire to play the game. Eric also showed a lot of enthusiasm for this game and
I know he really would have liked to have played longer in it. I really hated to
see both Brian and Eric voted out. Devon: Andrew from Pearl Islands. Andrew was a very strong physical
threat. His head was always in the game and he was a very strategic player.
Devon proved he was a very strong player and won his share of challenges. His
head was always in the game and he made some very strategic moves. Both had the
potential to win their game. Sarah: Ian from Palau. To Ian friendship was more important than winning
a million dollars & the title of Sole Survivor. He proved this when he asked Tom
to take Katie to the final 2. Sarah also put friendship before the game &
winning. When both she & Devon were on the block rather than campaigning for
herself she instead tried to convince people to vote herself out rather than
Devon. Stacey: Brianna from Guatemala. Brianna was a very sweet and likable girl
in Guatemala. But during challenges she wasn't able to compete very well and was
voted out because of it. Stacey is a very sweet girl and I enjoyed getting to
know her & chatting with her. But sometimes I don't think her heart was really
into the game. Cealy: Stephenie LaGrossa from both her season in Palau and Guatemala.
Stephenie proved to be a very strong competitor both physically and socially. In
her first season she was well liked by the other Survivors and a favorite with
the fans. In her 2nd season her popularity went the other way as now the other
players felt resentment towards her. Cealy you played this game very hard. You
were a very strong social threat and won challenges along the way. I believed
you were well-liked by a lot of players. But in the end some of the players may
have felt some resentment towards you because you did play the game so hard. 3.) i need to know a good reason
why nate doesn't deserve to win.
I think Nate is very strong
both in challenges & socially. However the thing that makes him less deserving
of winning BB Secrecy is his dishonesty in the game. Players who were in an
alliance with Nate were eventually betrayed and voted out by him. I believe
Charlie thought he had an alliance with Nate but was voted out by him. Later
Nate had an alliance with Devon, Sarah, & Stacey. One by one each of them were
set up to be voted out of the game by Nate. It appears he led you to believe he
would take you to final 2. I think Nate played the game hard but he also showed
disloyalty to his alliances and people who trusted & depended on him.
QUESTIONS FOR NATE
i have tremendous respect for
both of you making it this far. can I truly say i am happy to be sitting here as
the final juror? heck no! i played this game hard and kept my full loyalty to
one person strategically...and another because i couldn't bare to betray the
most honest person to me. i really trusted you nate. i put my trust in you, i
was calm throughout the whole final eviction ceremony because i trusted you. i
told you in IM that I would of done the same thing you did. Truth be told I
would have brought you to the end. I was trying to be tough after getting shown
that I had been played. it would be hard to say I vote to evict Velva. but i
dont know if i could of ever evicted you. as stupid as that move would have
been.
it makes me wonder if i was actually the person you were most loyal too. if you
would have voted me out at final four if velva would have. I betrayed Devon for
you, though he was betraying me you cant even begin to understand how hard that
even was. i proved to you that I had your back, you conviently had mine due to
standards of the game. or it could have been loyalty, but how do I know that?
I know we are friends, game is not mixed with the friendship. I love you so
much, dont even doubt that. but i just think you could of went up against me and
won still, you could of faced off against someone who played just as hard as
you. i just think it was a cowardly move when you truly needed to show that you
did have integrity in this game.
i have a few questions.
1.) I want you to relate each of the jury members to a Survivor Contestant.
tye - darrah (strong, silent
type)
charlie - shane (outrageous and crazy, but had his head in the game)
eric - colleen (loyal, loveable, true, but direct and to the point)
devon - boston rob (strong strategist and a personal favorite, but only loyal to
a point - though the same negative might be said about me)
sarah - denise (loyal, strong, alligned with key players, but was ok to settle
for something other than 1st)
stacey - janu (beautiful and grateful for the experience/friends, but ultimately
not in it to win it)
cealy - cirie (queen of the social game but too likeable to take to the end)
2.) Name two people on the jury who you don't think should even vote.
if i had to pick two people on
the jury to not vote, i'd honestly pick stacey and sarah. though i built
friendships with them in the game and was at one point alligned with them, i
lost a lot of respect for them as game players when they both threatened to quit
after i nominated devon after winning the diamond veto. joe even had to tell
them they wouldn't make jury if they quit.
yes, i'd betrayed them by nominating devon but that was a move i felt i had to
make. they both threw themselves on the pyre and begged to be voted off instead.
why work so hard, make it to the jury, then beg to quit when your main ally was
about to be voted off? games like this are about adaptation and i was frustrated
that they'd give up so quickly when things didn't go their way.
even still, stacey and sarah made it to the jury stage in the game and earned
their right to vote. be it for me or against me, i respect their votes all the
same.
3.) Was I really your number one?
you were absolutely my number
one, followed quite closely by devon. you were the first person i truly bonded
with and, while i had a close connection with devon, always had you at the top
of my list. towards the end, i knew i'd never be able to beat you in a jury
vote, but wanted you in the game because of my alliance towards you. i had the
chance to vote you out in the final 4 by forcing a tie and then breaking it to
evict you, but i rejected that notion.
4.) Who was the worst player, the best player, and the most annoying.
worst: i can't even say matty
or jenna, since they survived multiple rounds without even having to show up
after day 1. i'd have to say travis was the worst in this game, if only because
he let his other commitments dominate to the point where he only paid attention
to this game when need be.
best: like i said, you played a smoother game than i did and were also a strong
challenge threat. kudos also to devon. i guess i have more respect for strong,
proactive players than under the radar players or floaters, but i reckon that's
because that's how i play.
most annoying: charlie was probably the most annoying (not to me but in his game
persona), though i was impressed at how well it worked to his advantage in the
first rounds. i enjoyed him as a person and his strategy of being loud and brash
actually served to hide him in plain sight for many rounds. only when he was
nommed against cealy and eric did it work against him, since it gave people a
reason to vote him out.
then there is question five. do you really think you deserve my vote? and why
i would hope to get your vote.
i know that you were close to both me and velva, but i think we've been through
a lot more and that i've proven myself to you time and again (minus the last
vote, which i've already explained). yes, i withheld info from you at certain
points in the game, but it was never against you. i never lied to you except at
f3. i know you and i agree on the type of players you want to reward in the end
and i hope you can see past what happened at f3 and look at my gameplay
throughout the game when you cast your vote.
regardless of how you vote, i look forward to our friendship outside the game.
<3
With ALL of the jury
questions and statements now said and done it was time to vote for the winner.
Each of the seven jury members would now cast their vote for either NATE or
VELVA to win the title of Big Brother Secrecy 6 winner...
ERIC
I think it's
pretty clear this is DEFINITELY (yea I copied and pasted) not going to be a
surprise vote.
I vote for Velva <3 to win! I owe her that much.
Nate - 0 Velva - 1
SARAH
Well, it's between Nate and
Velva. It really is a difficult decision, no matter how much I am playing it up.
After much thinking, I vote for Velva to win. Velva played with a good strategy
and one that I would have liked to win with had I been able to stick with it. I
have a lot of respect for her and I'm glad she succeeded, especially since I had
no idea she'd get it this far.
Thanks Velva for a great game, and good luck!
Nate - 0
Velva - 2
TYE
Well, here I
am on the jury of BB Secrecy 6. I have to choose between Nate and Velva. The
person I am voting for made up my mind with their answers to my questions and
also other people's questions. This person made me laugh out loud in their
response to Charlie's final jury question and didn't cop out like the other
finalist.
That said....I vote for....
Nate. I hope you win. I like how you didn't shit from anyone.
Nate - 1
Velva - 2
CHARLIE
OK so yeah Nate what a
Dumb ass I mean even when andswering questions it still is a game on what to say
and what not to say. HELLO like i'm going to give my vote to the person who
actuly DID talk shit about me. whatever It is like Survivor Africa when Brandon
ask a question to Ethan and the question was like who was the worst player or
somthing like that and eathen said him (brandon) WHat a dumb ass like brandon
was going to vote him after that;. same thing heer. plus he lied to me and the
reason why i never made it farther. As well as Nate is the second Uglyest in
this game. I just lied to him acorse behind eric but who cares about him. and
I'm not going off the whole shit talk he actuly dis apointed me in it there was
a few good things the mother and the strok was the best but besides that he
kinda suck. plus velva NEVER did ANYTHING to me so she gets my vote
My vote to WIN BBS6 goes to Velva
Nate - 1
Velva - 3
CEALEY
There is a point
where you really need to let go jealousy, bitterness and envy. it’s a hard thing
to do especially when you’re in denial about it. I didn’t think I was jealous,
bitter or envious of either of them. I left thinking I was all okay with
everything that happened. Truth is I am so jealous, I am so bitter, and I am
very envious. I wanted to be in this final two so much. Right now these are the
three traits that describe me. So if I’m bitter, jealous and envious of someone…
what does that tell you?
I vote Nate to win the game.
The fact that I am bitter towards you, envious of you and jealous just means
that I want to be in the position you’re in. I don’t feel those traits towards
Velva. I feel them towards you. You deserve this.
Nate - 2
Velva - 3
DEVON
I was being
sincere when I said that I feel both Nate and Velva earned their spots in the
final 2.
I was also being sincere when I said I feel Nate is a good person...even though
he likes to bring up people's mother's strokes when asked to bash someone based
on gameplay (or at least, I think that's what Charlie's question said. It's not
like I've understood half of what Charlie has attempted to say during this
game...) I do know that he wants to win, and that he in some ways does deserve
to win.
Unfortunately for him, however, his deservingness doesn't detract from Velva's
deservingness, and to be frank, I could play the game Nate played any day of the
week for breakfast. I could never play the way Velva did. It's easy to coast
through a game with a strategy entirely based on a couple of lies and some
challenge wins --and Nate certainly wouldn't have survived the game without
winning all of those challenge.
Velva played a much more subtle game, but she played it herself--and I don't
believe one word of Cealy's bullcrap "I did everything for Velva and carried
her." That's obviously bullshit, considering Velva didn't even fully trust
Cealy. Plus, I think the methodical nature of Velva's journal shows she was
thinking every step of the way and knew exactly what she was doing, whereas I
don't think Nate knew what he was doing for half of the game. Guess what Nate?
If you had been as methodical as Velva, you too would have been able to deduce
that I might have voted for Sarah in Round 4, and that Charlie couldn't have
since two people didn't vote.
But enough of this corny, redundant speech. The point is, I'm voting for the
person who I feel played this game the best, and because of that...
I vote for * * * * to win.
STACEY
Vote: I vote
for * * * * to win Big Brother Secrecy 6
Reason: I feel as if * * * * answered there questions better than the other and
that * * * is basically just a jerk. I don't like the way they played this game
and that they were so cocky. I think that * * * * should win just because they
were somewhat loyal and does deserve this.
With all
the votes now in it was time to reveal the winner of Big Brother Secrecy 6....
Velva has been declared the
winner of Big Brother Secrecy 6 and with that win Velva now joins the exclusive
winners circle of Secrecy past...
I would like to thank all the
players of Big Brother Secrecy 6 for one great game! Although it had a rocky
start the season was an overall success and a fun one too host.
Thank you once again to everyone
who played in the game and watched. It was a great time and I hope you all
enjoyed playing and reading the episodes as much as I loved hosting!
Check back in mid November for
the applications of BIG BROTHER SECRECY 7 to begin.
With a new batch of houseguests
and twists, the house of secrets is opening its doors once again!